Interview with a Career Coach

Richard Kirby, Executive Impact

Last week I ended my post recommending that you seek professional help to achieve your career goals, especially if your efforts haven’t been successful.  This week I am pleased to provide you with more information in this connection.  What follows is my interview with my colleague Richard Kirby a Career Coach.  Richard has been helping people achieve their career goals for 20 years, so he is the ideal person to provide insight into the subject.

Jim: Richard, thank you for making time to talk with me. To get started, tell me what a career coach does. Why does someone come to you for help?

Richard: Jim, I help my clients evaluate their strengths and weaknesses and develop a plan to address those weaknesses. A large part of my work is to help them find a role that makes them happy.  This may be with their current employer or with a new employer if they are between jobs.

Jim: That is terrific Richard! Can you tell me more about the process you follow to help your clients?

Richard: My process begins by having the client complete a self a valuation.  I use a number of online assessments to identify needs for improvement. This helps me focus the client on their objectives. I also help them craft a marketing plan to land their desired role.  It could be a role different from their current career path but one that will use the same skill set that is equally fulfilling. So, I help them identify and uncover career opportunities and to go after them.

Jim: After you’ve worked on needs and have developed a marketing plan, what’s next?

Richard: The next phase is to help them prepare for the interview.  I began with a five page ‘how to prepare’ worksheet which gets the candidate thinking about answering questions they should expect. I also help the candidate respond to difficult questions which may relate to changing industry segments or gaps in their profile compared to the employer’s expectations for ideal candidate. We’ll conduct mock interviews, which I video, to be reviewed and studied by the candidate. I make notes and comments about their body language, verbal style, and the quality of their answers. Later, we have a follow-up discussion to reinforce the positives and identify work to be done. I am very hands-on with my clients.

Jim: Richard, how important is it to understand the employer’s culture? How do you coach a client in this area?

Richard: I have tools to help the client understand the target’s culture. I suggest they use Glass Door and talk with people who work for or have worked for the company.

Some aspects of the culture will inhibit the candidate from getting the first interview, like educational background or prior employment. There is nothing to do to fix those gaps, at least in the short run. It is different than one looking to improve their situation with their current employer as they are already part of the culture. They know it, live it, and understand it.

In one case a client was able to create his ideal job by finding a need that wasn’t being addressed. I coached him to present the need to the department head and then sell himself as the solution.

I consider myself to be the client’s champion. I am their chief motivator and inspiration.  “I believe my clients have more potential and can achieve more than they think they can.”  I push them to believe in themselves and to face their fears. A good coach must believe in their clients. I have turned down or canceled contracts with one or two who did not have enough self-confidence or failed to follow through on their assignments.

Jim: What else do you do for your clients, Richard?

Richard: For an additional fee, when appropriate, I help them negotiate an offer to arrive at the best possible outcome.

Jim:  Richard, thank you for your time today!  I am a big fan of your work, especially for people who find it difficult to achieve their career goals.  I will provide links to aid anyone interested in more information about your services.

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‘Fit’ Is the Ultimate Criterion

Ending the week by sharing a bottle of wine with a friend is most satisfying.  Especially, someone, you hold in high esteem.  Faith is one of those people.  She is a confidant and muse. She is my ‘go to’ person for a different perspective, including comparisons between dating and job search. Oh yes, there are many parallels as both activities are about developing relationships.   Her insight can be profound.  An added benefit is that we share the same taste in wine.  I always defer to her recommendation.   Sometimes, I need her help to sort out the week, to select the topic for my article.

I arrived a little early to secure a strategic location at the bar; then selected a favorite vintage and uncorked it to breathe.   Faith arrived shortly thereafter.  After she told me about her week, she asked about mine.  She was most interested to hear about my experience as a panelist speaking on “Alternatives to Traditional Employment.” Holding a good job is difficult today as companies struggle to adapt to the digital age.  Considering alternatives to traditional employment is worthwhile.  

I was invited because I left the corporate world to start my business and for my work supporting freelance consultants. We talked about the need to follow our passion when picking a business. We reinforced the need for confidence to strike out on our own. Perseverance through difficult times was recognized as a fundamental requirement.  We all agreed that the major reason for starting a business is to gain control over one’s life and career, especially in a highly volatile environment where tenures are short. 

The audience was mostly Baby Boomers. They’re generally healthy, competent, and technically savvy if not necessarily perceived as such by potential employers. They have solid interpersonal skills, more so than their younger peers, but don’t necessarily recognize this strength.

FENG Panelists 2-13-2019

One member of the audience surfaced the issue of age discrimination.  I told Faith I found that a bit odd for a discussion about alternatives to a traditional job.  Age discrimination is a significant concern for Baby Boomers, albeit overblown, in my opinion.  It is less of an issue during periods of full employment.  It is also less of an issue at smaller, emerging brands.  In many cases it becomes an excuse for difficulty finding a job.  After hearing the question, I thought the issue was less about age discrimination and more about his presentation. He lacked the image and energy employers expect from someone at his level.  

When I mentioned that point, Faith’s expression changed significantly, indicating an ‘ah ha’ moment. She had a flashback to a conversation with our mutual friend Hope. I was a participant in that conversation, well more like an interested observer. 

Hope was talking about a conversation with her brother who was puzzled that another romantic interest had fizzled. He was perplexed that she was still single as she’s an attractive woman with an effervescent personality.  However, she seems unwilling to risk being hurt again.  Hope said he asked if the guy had “crooked toes.”  I was clueless as to what that meant.  I have learned that these ladies often talk in code that requires a debriefing after the fact. As I think back, I remember that I listened to them as if they were speaking a foreign language.  I didn’t interrupt for clarification though, as the wine was awesome, and I was in the company of two beauties.  Besides, they were having a great time and I didn’t want to spoil the moment. I just enjoyed the fun.

Faith reminded me that the code-word, “crooked toes” means “unidentifiable, unspoken reasons one does not find the other attractive enough to continue dating.  Or, when one candidate is selected over another, when all else is equal or favorable for the candidate not selected.” In my world this means the unsuccessful candidate wasn’t the best fit.  Faith had done it again.  She found my topic for the week!

All things being equal, ‘fit’ is the ultimate consideration.  From an employer’s perspective, all new hires carry risk.  A bad hiring decision can be very costly. The more important the position, the greater the risk. Fit is the critical criterion, as all finalists will have met the quantifiable selection requirements.

Lack of fit means the hiring manager was not satisfied with the candidate’s personality, speaking skills, management style, presence, or energy level. As these details are seldom revealed, it creates a quandary as one doesn’t know how to become more competitive.  However, success in job search or romance, requires one to understand and address their weaknesses. The candidate may need professional help.  Recording a video of practice interview sessions will provide useful insight.  Videos may be painful for some, but it is worth the expense. Audio recordings can be an important tool as well.  A career coach will find solutions to overcome one’s weaknesses.

When a runner-up hears that the person selected was a better fit, it is a signal to seek constructive criticism. Find a professional, or a trusted adviser with recruiting and selection knowledge. You must get back into the game.   If you have crooked toes, fix them!

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On Networking: Get Into The Game

I find it useful to look back on a recently completed day, week, month, or year to evaluate my activities relative to my results.  It is a component of the problem-solving process which leads to adjustments ensuring that I reach my goal.  Without that evaluation, I will find myself off course with diminishing opportunity to reach my goal.  

After evaluating the week just passed, I found that my time was divided into two major areas.  About a third was talking with folks looking for another full-time situation while the balance was helping independent consultants with their business development efforts.  In each case, my time was devoted to coaching these folks about the importance of networking.  Of the job seekers, one is the Millennial son of a friend.  He just lost his job due to a change in strategy which caused a reduction in force.  I encouraged him to focus more time on networking and to consider joining the Atlanta Chapter of The Business Executives Networking Group (BENG).  The second is an older guy referred to me by a mutual friend.  He is in the market after thirty years with the same company.  Regrettably, his network is mostly within his past employer.  I advised him to get his resume to as many Executive Recruiters as possible but don’t try to build a relationship with them.   It is too late for that, however, if they have a search that matches his background, they will contact him.  Instead, I told him to focus his time on networking and to be open to contract work.  This will give employers more options to consider.  The third is a female colleague looking for an office manager/accounting role with a small company.  She is a Baby Boomer who understands the value of networking to find a job.  I told her the same thing I told the second gentleman; provide the employer with additional options to consider by indicating a willingness to take contract work or a 1099 situation.

Those discussions gave me an opportunity to refer back to my last blog post where I made the point that networking is like making friends and dating.  Most understood the idea of making friends, but the concept of dating generated interesting responses.  The guys just grinned and nodded their heads.  Obviously, they don’t understand women and didn’t want to pursue the topic further.  The ladies, all single, had a lot to say usually beginning with a groan.  They all agreed that there are far too many men who spend their time talking about themselves (selling) with little interest in learning about their female partner.  One volunteered that her policy is “one and done” for those types.  Another said that dating was a “nightmare,” as she meets far too many self-obsessed guys.  I suggested to one that we should create a skit to demonstrate the wrong way to begin a date, with a follow-on showing the right way.  Of course, this would be a useful opener for further discussion about networking in general.

I realize that making friends or networking doesn’t come naturally for some, especially those who may be somewhat introverted.  However, if you want to find that next job or romantic interest you must make the effort to overcome your fears.  Fundamentally, all these endeavors are based on interpersonal skills that are easy to understand and execute.  The rule is to learn about your partner by asking questions to qualify them.  It’s not about you, it’s about them.  Don’t begin talking about yourself or your business until you are asked to do so.  By following this advice, you accomplish two very important objectives: first, you determine if the other is a viable prospect and secondly, by showing interest in the other, you begin building a relationship.  That relationship will make the difference if your questions reveal the other to be a viable prospect.  I suspect that people who have difficulty making friends or networking are uncomfortable because they have the process reversed.

If you want to minimize your time in the job market or find a mate, get into the game.  You must get out of your comfort zone to get experience.  Experience builds confidence.  Confidence leads to success.  Joining a networking group like BENG would be a good place to start.

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Your Network Is Fragile: Handle With Care!

I awoke this morning to find an email from my friend and associate, Bill.  He recently accepted a job as a Chief Marketing Officer, (CMO) and will be relocating to the frigid north within the next six weeks.  The CMO position carries a big risk of short tenure/high turnover, so I am sure that Bill received an offer he couldn’t refuse.  He suggested that we get together for a Cigar and Whiskey prior to his relocation.  He also asked about continuing his membership with my networking group as he feels unable to make a meaningful contribution.  Bill’s question is common for people that have landed full-time employment.  I hear it often, especially from Baby Boomers.   I happily accepted his offer with plans to answer his question while indulging our favorite pass-time.

During my 20 years as an Executive Recruiter, I’ve seen a vast number of my peers lose their jobs and high salaries to be thrust into the job market. They weren’t ready to retire, maybe they couldn’t.  They may have had the benefit of an out-placement program, which is a good thing, but often they didn’t.  They got to work on their job search. They updated their resumes, bios, LinkedIn profiles, and other collateral material. They became reacquainted with online tools to research prospective companies and seek opportunities. They may have joined a networking group or two. Some even took to blogging.  

They faithfully executed of their plans, scheduling coffee meeting after coffee meeting and attending networking meetings. Their job search may have lasted six months, nine months, or sometimes over a year. Eventually they reconnected. They found a job that met their requirements and went back to work.  Life was normal again.

They didn’t care for unemployment, so they worked hard to ensure success at their new jobs. They invested extra time and effort on behalf of their employers. Before long, they had little free time available for networking.  That’s where their problems began. As they backed off their networking activities, their networks began stagnating.

But that’s not the end of the story.  Often, I saw those same people starting a new search, sometime within months, often within a year.  It is happening more frequently today. In some respects, a short tenure may be a blessing in disguise. It probably means that one’s network is still intact, available to be resurrected without much effort. That may be something of a paradox.  Unfortunately, the longer one is gainfully employed, the greater the likelihood their network will wither and become unproductive.

Job tenures are getting shorter and shorter, especially for Baby Boomers. The labor market is more volatile and dynamic than ever.  Today, a two-year tenure is the norm for a baby boomer’s next job. In many respects, two years isn’t that long. However, it is long enough to render one’s network so unproductive that significant time and effort is required to re-energize.   The market is dynamic. It continues to change.  Without constant attention the value of your network will become a diminished asset.

My recommendation is to reserve enough time to maintain and enhance your network when you find your next job.  Try to remain active with one or two networking groups to maintain your skills.  Professional Associations rank high with me as they offer professional development as well as networking opportunities.  If possible, seek out leadership roles to further enhance your visibility and resume.  LinkedIn should remain a high priority.  Make sure that your profile is always current, especially your contact information.  Engage with one or two groups, commenting on posts, and consider creating original content for publication.  Finally, be a resource to other job seekers by accepting their meeting requests.  

It’s a bad idea to stop networking after landing your next job!  It is a fundamental mistake I frequently encounter with job seekers.  Your network is a major asset, but it’s fragile.  Handle with care!

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Job Search In The New Normal: Three Perspectives; Originally Published February 13, 2016

My activity during the last two weeks has included three networking meetings with prospective candidates.  Two of the meetings were face-to-face at Starbucks, and the third was over the phone.  Their experience and individual situations ran the gamut.  The first candidate I met, Matt, is a referral from a solid networking connection which I have known for many years.  Matt had gone to school with my friend and had worked together earlier in his career. He was in town for a few days prior to leaving for a boys-skiing weekend.  Matt is an established Financial Planning and Analysis (FP&A) professional employed in a good job with a major company.  He and his wife want to get back to the Atlanta area to be closer to their extended family.  His objective is to find a good job first and then move.   I found Matt to be very affable and professional.  Little surprise as his background included a private school education and Ivy League college degree.  Additionally, he had earned an MBA from a prestigious, top-tier University.  Matt is a very polished guy who knows how to communicate.  His intention was to establish a relationship with me and to explore some options.  Although a preliminary discussion, I enjoyed our visit and will work to help him achieve his goal.  Clearly, Matt is well grounded for a job search in the “new normal.”

My second meeting was not as positive.   John has had a difficult time finding a new job.    Also, a native of the Atlanta, he has been out of work for eighteen months. John has lived out of state for the past 16 years working in a small company.   He moved back to Atlanta to be close to family after the failure of a business venture. After earning an Ivy League Degree, he worked as a manager for established restaurant brands, later transitioning into the small company sector. In his most recent situation, he was in charge of administration for a small company which included the responsibilities of a CFO, a CIO, and Director of Construction. John was not comfortable during our meeting.  He was visibly nervous and a bit awkward.  We discussed options he has considered including consulting and project work. His references were very positive. However, his experience is not resonating with prospective employers.

Mark was my third networking encounter; this meeting was via telephone. Mark was referred to me by a CEO contact who had to terminate his employment as part of a company restructure.  Mark is a middle manager who has worked his way up the ladder to middle management without a college degree.  He has not had to look for a job for a very long time as he has been recruited from one job to the next by people who know him. Mark is well spoken, and his resume is solid.  Now unemployed, he really does not know how to look for a job in the new normal.  I suspect his network needs to be rebuilt as well.  We scheduled a phone call to trade information, but he made little effort to prepare for that call.  He did not review my background by visiting my website or checking out my LinkedIn profile.  As a result, we spent too much time on fundamental issues without learning how I could be helpful to him.  After our conversation, I made one referral on his behalf.  I need to follow up with Mark to more fully understand his needs and aspirations.

There are interesting similarities between these gentlemen.  They are all about the same age and have enjoyed success in their chosen fields.  Their circumstances are very different, however.  Matt is in the best position as he begins the process to understand his options.  John is in a difficult position as the time between situations is taking a toll on his psyche.  He must reboot his search.  Mark will be fine.  He will need to rebuild his network, but his skills and experience are highly marketable.  I suspect that he has a suitable severance package.  He can ramp up his job search quickly and will likely be reconnected by summer.

The one thing they have in common is that they are learning to adapt to job search in the new normal.  Their ultimate destinations will take them down different paths, but each will need to engage in the same activities.  Matt and Dave will have more options to consider than Mark whose background is exclusive to restaurant operations.  Nevertheless, each must assemble and nurture an effective network, their team, to identify appropriate opportunities.  They must craft a viable personal positioning strategy to evaluate opportunities presented.  They must be able to convince hiring managers and recruiters that their experience and skills match the job requirements and that they are a cultural fit for the enterprise.  And, when employed again, they must get off to an effective start by taking ownership of the onboarding process.

Of the three, which represents the situation you would aspire to?  Matt’s of course!  He is proactively directing his career, building from a position of strength.  He is working on a plan to make a career move before circumstances force the need.  More than ever before, one must be vigilant in the management of their career.  Nurturing an effective network is the starting point.

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The Middle-aged Salesman

A friend recently contacted me regarding her husband’s need for help finding his next job. Jerry, (not his real name) is an accomplished sales manager in his own right whose experience has been in the commercial printing industry. Now in middle age, he has become sidelined in a dead-end job. Jerry is someone I have spent time with over the years and found him to be affable and witty. I had no reason to doubt his networking abilities. He is a salesman after all. Networking is about building relationships, the most fundamental part of sales.

 So, I happily arranged a coffee meeting with Wendy, a friend who has a business helping companies find optimal solutions to their print marketing needs. Since they were both professionals from the Printing Industry I thought this meeting would be a natural. Wendy is an excellent net-worker with very strong connections in Jerry’s target market. I could not have arranged a better connection for Jerry. This meeting looked to have great potential benefit for them both. Well, at least that was my thinking.

We all know that good networking includes the productive use of time. Get to the point. Let me know what you are trying to accomplish. How I can be helpful? The 30-second elevator speech is at the heart of the process. Unfortunately, as the meeting progressed, I saw that Jerry’s goal was to tell Wendy his life story. Jerry’s single-minded intent was to follow through on that objective. Had Wendy been an Executive Recruiter, like me, learning about Jerry’s full history might have been useful. Being a potential networking contact, Wendy’s knowledge of Jerry’s life story was not only irrelevant, it wasn’t a productive use of her time. In the process, Jerry learned absolutely nothing about Wendy. Doubtless, Jerry would not be a very useful networking contact for Wendy.

Frankly, I was astonished. More than once Wendy stopped Jerry to ask him what he was looking to do and how she might be helpful. This irritated Jerry. He did not answer her question but continued on with his story. It was excruciating. Wendy politely cut the meeting short, indicating that she had another meeting to attend. Jerry and I went off to have lunch and debrief.

During our lunch, Jerry expressed his frustration with Wendy. He was completely baffled as to why she continued to interrupt him during his soliloquy. I tried to address his fundamental misunderstanding as to how networking is conducted; i.e. time is of the essence, and the process is meant to be a two-way exchange of information. I explained that Wendy had tried to get Jerry to come to the point, but he refused to budge from his script. I went on to explain that over time, in order to build relationships, it may be useful to reveal more of one’s life story. It is totally inappropriate, however, in an initial networking meeting. My final point was that the message to Wendy was; “it was all about Jerry.” I think Jerry got the message, but I cannot be sure.

 I am still unclear as to why Jerry conducted the meeting as he did. It was not only strange, but it was also a little creepy. At his age and with his experience I expected a focused and productive presentation. I had been with him in a number of social settings and always found his behavior to be appropriate. His meeting with Wendy was totally unexpected. Could it be that Jerry was just a very poor salesman? I was beginning to wonder.

Key Learning: To help facilitate a productive networking meeting I use email to introduce my contacts and exchange their information. Exchanging resumes and LinkedIn profiles is a very useful part of the process to prepare for an effective meeting. This gives the participants the opportunity to learn background information prior to the meeting so the focus of the meeting can be on the present. It puts the meeting in context. A “good networking meeting” is a productive exchange where all parties leave with clear knowledge as to how to help the other.

 In this case, I should not be too hard on myself. I had enough experience with Jerry to expect a good outcome. I did exchange biographical information in advance. Jerry, Wendy, and I are all about the same age so there are a lot of similar life experiences which made the connection easier. I was surprised that Jerry did not grasp the fundamental concepts of mutual benefit and the productive use of our time. He learned nothing about Wendy and how he might be able to help her. Sometimes, even with the best of intentions and solid preparation, things don’t go well. That’s life. Suck it up and move on. As with last week’s horror story our efforts to help Jerry ended with that meeting.

My balance sheet with Wendy is very much in the positive so there was minimal damage to my credibility. Life goes on. Fortunately, my failed networking meetings continue to be a very small percentage of the total. Work in Progress:

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